ILPS, IPM, ST movements are complimentary

What exactly we want? We want to protect & preserve our people, our land, our identity, our culture and also bring about peace and prosperity for all. IPLS (Inner Line Permit System) movement is meant for the protection of our own people from the intrusion of outsiders and to get ourselves insulated from the infringement of outside elements on our land and resources, culture and identity etc. Indigenous people’s movement (IPM) is about reviving and preserving our age old culture, beliefs and practices, language and script etc. And ST (Scheduled Tribe) demand is for empowerment, upliftment, equality (egalitarian) and integration of the people.
I think these movements are not antagonistic to one another. These movements can go on at tandem. There is no contradiction at all. But there may be some minor differences and conflict of interest among the leaders of these wonderful democratic movements. In the larger interest of the people they should come over their differences and work hand in hand. Superficially it seems that these movements are for different causes but in reality the goal and destination is more or less the same. A slightly propound understanding of the issues will certainly make us realize that the movements are on the similar lines and on similar paradigm.
The instinct of our people is extremely strong. They will surely sense it by now that all these movements are for their protection, preservation, promotion, peace-full existence and prosperity. Let us not divide the people on the basis of our ideological differences. Let us stand by the common good of the masses. There are innumerable ideas on earth than intellectuals can imagine. But the most powerful ideas are those ideas which are accepted and supported by the people. I believe all our movements pertaining to ILPS, IPM and ST are getting popular acceptance. I also believe that in a democracy the vox populi always prevails. “A democracy’s ability to peacefully resolve conflicts is greatest when those conflicts arise between so called interest groups…when the conflicts are primarily economic in nature. But there are other kinds of non-economic conflicts that are far more intractable, having to do with issues like inherited social status and nationality, that democracy is not particularly good at resolving”(Francis Fukuyama). However if the people and their elected government are willing to resolve crucial issues, they certainly can do so. Even the most difficult questions of self-determination were settled democratically in mature democracies; we have seen it in the case of Quebec, 1995 (Canada) and Scotland, 2014(UK).
I do not understand a general system of domination exercised by one element or one group over another, whose effects traverse the entire body social, it seems to me that first what needs to be understood is the multiplicity of relations of force that are immanent to the domain wherein they are exercised and that are constitutive of its organization; the game that through incessant struggle and confrontation transforms them, reinforces them, inverts them; the supports these relations of force find in each other, so as to form a chain or system….These are the words of Michel Foucault. It seems relevant to us in the present scenario.
For ILPS Bill there were some technical flaws in terms of constitutionality and legality (as indicated at the time of inception). The spirit and intent of the Bill was understandable. But the legislative competence of the State Assembly for passing such a Bill is doubtful. That might be the reason why the Bill is still not an Act. If we really want to have a law, without doing politics and without blaming one another, both the Congress and BJP leaders must come together and sort it out. Presidential assent is not President’s endorsement but that of Ministry of Home Affairs.
Remember SC, ST, OBC, GEN etc., is a peculiar Indian phenomenon and the rest of the world does not take cognizance of it. Being in the General category or OBC or SC or ST list we are not going to gain or lose our prestige and pride, position and status. It is simply a mechanical mechanism to redress certain anomalies in the societies. Don’t take it otherwise other than enjoying the privileges. It is merely a temporary Constitutional arrangement; but only wise man like Ambedker could foresee and worked out in favor of his people. Its expiry date is extended every ten years. But how long? So take a plunge and grab your share.
Good news is that six communities from Assam are about to enter the ST list including Tai Ahoms. These days ST tag is no more defamatory rather salutary. Let the people decide and demand in a peaceful way unlike the way the Jats did in Haryana and the Patels did in Gujarat (that too only for OBC).
One Prof in a challenging tone told me that why don’t you ask for the privileges and protection without the ST tag? You people will never get ST tag. I retorted back by saying, we don’t mind getting all the privileges and protection without the tag; but as of now there is no other option and any other dispensation. During a bank robbery a daring man asked for change from one of the robbers and to our surprise one of the robbers gave the change. The moral of the story is that keep asking, who knows you may get it.
I always believe in the common sense of the common people; even if they don’t listen to me I shall move on with the invincible thought of Tagore “ekla cholo re”.

32 Responses to "ILPS, IPM, ST movements are complimentary"

  1. Rex   May 15, 2016 at 2:06 pm

    Your article is a perfect example of hight of stupidity. It is because of people like you that our society today is regressing instead of progressing. Invest your precious time by contributing towards the real issues that are plaguing our society. Human wants are endless. What is the condition of the people of Jharkhand and Chhattisgarh today? Poverty figures of STs are much higher than the all-India level in this two states. The demand for statehood in Jharkhand emerged so as to give justice to the tribal communities. Today these demands for justice have been put on the back burner by the leaders who once were at the forefront of struggles for justice. What is the guarantee that on being classified as ST the conditions of Meitei’s will improve substantially? Political will alone can and will solve the problems of Manipur.

    • rameshwar   May 15, 2016 at 4:38 pm

      Meiteis are yet to recognise as Scheduled Tribe. What is harm if they are declared as Scheduled Tribe? Can you list troubles you are likely to encounter after declaring Meiteis as Scheduled Tribe?

      • Rex   May 18, 2016 at 10:45 pm

        What is the need for ST? Explain it to me. I am very ignorent. When the ultimate intention of the demand is risking the territorial integrity of the state what is the need for it? Protection of Identity, culture, reservations so and so are just to misled the people. Instead support the ILP movement.

    • tomba   May 16, 2016 at 2:04 pm

      @rex,ur comment sounds like the presidential speech on republic day..” We sud unite,we sud help the poor,we sud love our brothers,we sud have will…blah…blah..” This kind of speech we have been listening since independence…so what is the guarantee that the meiteis will prosper in the current scenario without ST tag? Don’t give ur reply like the netas,be pragmatic…getting ST sud not be seen as the panacea of all problems but definitely it is going to change some lives if not all…shed ur false pride. Try to feel not see the hard realities.

      • Rex   May 17, 2016 at 1:44 pm

        Who is not being pragmatic here? If you are so genuinely concerned of weaker sections what is troubling you in demanding creation of Economically Backward Classes (EBC) within the Meitei/Meetei and arranging reservation for the same? Explain me the very some that are going to change? And how are we going to prosper when/if classified as ST? Until and unless our elected members has the urge and will to act selflessly for the best, no ST or constitutional safeguard can bring about an improvement in our every sphere of life.

        • tomba   May 17, 2016 at 8:58 pm

          If u talk about all India scenario about STs,well I do understand but in our own state,it s just the opposite…ST is not only for economic benefits,there are issues of identity,ownership rights.etc…as well which can be given far can you ensure that being in EBC,the meiteis will prosper ? And when do you expect the elected members to render selfless service? On your funeral day?

          • Rex   May 18, 2016 at 4:34 am

            EBC only for the economically weaker sections within us. To uplift them socially and economically. Not for everybody. Ownership rights are only to serve the interest of the few rich people. Poor will buy land or run for food and think for the future of their children? No one can take way your land as long as you are the rightful owner. Reservation system was introduced to create a level playing field, my friend. If you feel uncomfortable seeing some of our brothers from hills holding high govt post than may God help you. Such a thinking are born out of jealousness. There are only a few meitei IAS/IPS, coming from the UPSC, because most of us has the habit of choosing either medical or engineering as a career for the brighter ones among our children. Dinesh and Diana could become IAS only out of their sheer commitment and hardwork. Not because of their father or mother or family. I mentioned about political will because it alone can save our educational system, especially in colleges. Providing good and quality education in Manipur is crucial as it will serve the need of the poor students and their families. Ahaammm! A person like Mr. Tomba do not want to work but wants to an IAS officer.

          • tomba   May 18, 2016 at 7:04 am

            @rex,u sound like a social scientist..???…ur line ” no one can take your land as long as you’re the right owner” ,” Ownership rights are meant for rich people” from which text or author are you quoting these lines,havent come across such….Can u buy a piece of land for the landless meiteis in the hills? Have you done a survey or statistical analysis when you say meiteis opt for doctor or engineering more ? South korean children are known for their hardworking nature and skills,so if u raise a south Korean child at Mayang imphal or Lilong,obviously the results will be different from those in the Korea…See the problem wit self-conferred social scientist is that he live in a world of his own imagination,completely disconnected from the masses and ground realities…Are you smoking weed?

          • Rex   May 18, 2016 at 10:28 pm

            As if you have gone through a lot of books or even visited South Korea. Oja Tomba. Show me the ground realities of meiteis. Let’s see how great you are. Jealousy will take you nowhere.

          • tomba   May 19, 2016 at 6:59 am

            @rex,come out of the delusion , u r high on cannabis..if u r afraid that meiteis will b granted ST,then it s an irrational fear,if you are shitting underneath ur pant,playing guitar is not going to help.see you have been given a brain,u have to use it,like servicing of ur vehicle lest it sud get rusted…well I don’t read much but definitely more than you can comprehend…may god bless you the wisdom to understand the truth. God helps who helps themselves,work hard,play less guitar.??

        • Somo   November 10, 2017 at 8:31 am

          if ST no Income tax.just an example. more are there if interested

  2. RDX   May 16, 2016 at 6:38 am

    @ REX. or RDX. you can not ridicule the somebody opinion by pointing out some unknown cases. do you think are we really civilized , and advance. you dont know what you are. we meitei are more tribal then existing Manipur Tribal , Or Mizoram tribal. I can give more tangible evidence. Because of your irrational thought This Present n Past Graduated turn into Frustration.

    • Rex   May 18, 2016 at 10:12 pm

      Please. Show me your tangible evidence.

  3. Meecoibi   May 17, 2016 at 10:53 am

    There is no begger in Manipur but group begger is on the way of making?.recently result of upsc exam shows manipuri can crack the exam without St tag so this demand has no solid foundation to pounder upon.

    • tomba   May 17, 2016 at 9:06 pm

      So what!! Is ST meant only for civil service exam? Every bright meitei student has the calibre to crack this sort of exam but do they have conducive environment ? Not every family is like Diana’s family. Remember it s 16 years after Rk dinesh for a Manipur meitei to get thru general category.And why don’t the educated STs of Manipur discard the ST tag? There may be a good number of reasons beyond the realm of your imagination.

    • Mayanglambam   May 18, 2016 at 9:14 am

      @ Meecoibi….ST status is not for superior people like you… called descendent of Arjun ( Even if the Name of the then kingdom was changed to Manipur only about 300 years ago). It is for lesser soul like us. Don’t worry, even if the Meitei gets ST status, you can continue competing in General category because no one is going to ask you for a general category certificate.

    • Somo   November 10, 2017 at 8:33 am

      how many ST and and non ST are there in Manipur Mr. who cracked upsc

  4. Mayanglambam   May 18, 2016 at 8:04 am

    @Rex ..if it is only hard work, can the son/daughter of a rickshaw driver who does not have the means to send his children outside the state to prepare for the exam and start cracking the exam. How many brilliant Meiteis do you find in the All India Medical Entrance Test, IITs, AIIMS? Don’t tell about those who get through state quota? Name one Meitei (General category) who is on the National scene because of hardwork? Don’t tell me Nepram Binalakshmi and Irom Sharmila. In order to understand the situation of the Meiteis, you need to go out and look towards the state taking the whole Nation into account.

    • Rex   May 18, 2016 at 11:28 pm

      My friend Mayanglampam if you google on the net you will come across many examples of how the sons and daughters of rickshaw pullers or auto drivers who studied in vernacular govt colleges are becoming IAS/IPS. There are thousands and thousands of IITs/IIMs graduates who could not clear the civil services exam. It’s not where you studied but how much you commit yourself and how hard you work for it. Without decipline you cannot dream of becoming a successful person. I already said I stood for a change is our education system, especially colleges. If other states can do it our state too can do it but provided there is political will. We have a whole lot of quality teachers at our disposal but because of the moribund system they remained underutilised. And that affects our students performance.

      • Mayanglambam   May 19, 2016 at 8:02 am

        @ Meecoibi….ST status is not for superior people like you… called descendent of Arjun ( Even if the Name of the then kingdom was changed to Manipur only about 300 years ago). It is for lesser soul like us. Don’t worry, even if the Meitei gets ST status, you can continue competing in General category because no one is going to ask you for a general category certificate.

      • tomba   May 19, 2016 at 8:19 am

        @rex,be the change you wish to be but don’t do anything stupid to the education system,there are many working for a better education system here…it will be the worst nightmare to find another person on this earth with the same delusional symptoms you’re going thru.

        • Rex   May 19, 2016 at 2:32 pm

          Tomba Tomba Tomba Da Tomba. You are a funny guy. Now a days people earn a whole lot of money by making funny things. Why don’t you state your own? Seriously.

          • Rex   May 19, 2016 at 2:34 pm

            Why don’t you start your own, Oja Da Tomba?

      • Mayanglambam   May 19, 2016 at 8:47 am

        @Rex…I am well aware of stories of underprivileged kids cracking the UPSC exam but never from my state of Manipur. You are not getting the point. Almost the whole of the NorthEast is in the same situation with the same kind of exposure. While most of the Northeasterner is competing in ST category, we Meitei are competing in General category. It is always a disadvantage for us. In a competition like UPSC exam, everything matters. I am not talking of gifted people with IQ in genius category. I am talking about the masses with average IQ which majority of us belongs to. Why do most of the student preparing for Civil services folks in an around Delhi? Forget underprivileged kids, name one intelligent hard working Meitei who has never gone out of the state, who only sits here in Manipur cracking the civil services exam? Talking about political will….the Britishers describe the Meiteis as a race of conspirator. Look at the number of Meitei organisations. We are all leader without the leadership quality. You are living in an idealistic dream world while, I have already gone through the ground realities which my community is facing today. Almost 60 years now since the Meitei opted for General Category, where are we? If you want to continue living in your dream world, please continue. No one is going to stop you competing in the general category but, spare us, We need a certificate to be in ST category.

        • Rex   May 19, 2016 at 2:27 pm

          You know what? You will continue to counter my points so do I. You want ST to become a bureaucrat or a police officer. But to become or not to become depends upon your character. Reservation policy was adopted so that so far marginalised and underprivileged community can come at par with the mainstream population. We, as a whole, do not fall in that category. No doubt, some among us are underprivileged but that does not make us quality for ST. We better focus on doing something if not everything for the deserving underprivileged families and students among us rather than hoping for stilling something in the name of them.

          • tomba   May 19, 2016 at 7:15 pm

            If you don’t want,just remain silent what s the point of trolling here? It s not you to decide our fate,who is the “we” here,the so called pseudo patriots!! & their cohorts…Nobody is forcing you to become ST and you don’t have any right to poke your nose on other’s rights.M really piss off with ur kind,pseudo intellect.half -baked ideas with utopian dream…if you are making the statement at the behest of those behind the scene,you are leading a wretched life,such a low life without ability to form his own opinion..good for nothing,why don’t you commit suicide dumbo?

          • Rex   May 20, 2016 at 12:54 am

            Hahahaha…Cool cool Oja Da Tomba. You are really a funny man. Consider comedy role in manipuri film industry. Don’t hide your true talent.

          • tomba   May 20, 2016 at 11:10 am

            @rex,y waste time here,get training in Myanmar for demand letters n hurling grenades,do as u r told to do by ur master from across the border,also go for tuition to ur mentor Oja danabir for further advice…nama leibakkidamak thawai kathok o,athouba mingthol pibige…then il make a movie n hopefully lend myself a role for comedy.??

          • Rex   May 21, 2016 at 9:27 am

            Oja Da Tomba I like your attitude.

          • Somo   November 10, 2017 at 8:38 am

            in manipur there are numerous example of ST IAS officers who are sons and daughters of IAS officers. how do you explain that .who is under privileged

  5. Kingson   August 10, 2016 at 3:59 am

    So you want ST status? why don’t you take it? Its there for everyone, every tom, dick and harry have the right to claim ST status, its a matter of who is eligible. Before you. If Civils clearing chances, because you cannot clear civils in general category is the driving force for ST demand, than go work in paddy field and do civilised work.

  6. Bk   August 18, 2016 at 3:01 pm

    People sometimes get confused with what the very ST status means… and the argument gets drifted towards the opportunity like qoutas and all…
    The very threat to dilution of our culture .. economic independence… social strata is the main cause of concern for us minorities who have only a population with a ratio of 0.05 pc in India. The greater force of globalisation ..mass migrarion for livlihood etc can only be tackled with a proper, constituional methods like such ST status .


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