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ZB to KNO Nagas were the first hill settlers
TAMENGLONG, Dec 5: The Zeliangrong Baudi, Manipur (ZB-M) has claimed today that historically the Nagas were the first settlers in the hills of Manipur and the other chiefs living in the four “Naga districts” had paid yearly cultivation tax to Naga villages.
“This would be illogical if the Kukis were the masters,” the ZB-M reasoned.
The ZB said that when the Zeliangrong people came to their present habitat there were no other tribes, including the Kukis, or else there would have been conflicts with the earlier settlers.
“Our forefathers experienced inter-tribal (Kukis) conflict only in the 19th and the 20th century. This means that the Kukis started coming to the hill areas only later.
“Kuki influx began after the Kukis were planted at the British frontiers in the Naga hills and the Naga areas of Nagaland and Manipur in 1850s by Col MC Cullock. This fact is well accounted by RK Rajendro in his article, “Myanmar Amasung Manipur da leiba Kuki sing,” published in a local daily newspaper dated 19th March, 2012.
In the said article the writer had said, ‘Yumhong toiba Kuki Chingmising asina Kanagumba leibak amada akaknaba Burma amasung Manipur da yum hongduna khundaruba khudunggi sajinnaba itihas semduna leibak tuda leijaramliba miyamdugi mathak thong-naba hekta hotnei. Makhoibu changpham piriba leibak tuda autonomous state nattraga ningtamba homeland piyu hekta hai’...,” pointed out the Zeliangrong body.
On the claims of the Kuki National Organisation (KNO) that the Zeliangrongs were the vassals of Tintong and Khotinthang of Laijang and Jampi, the ZB-M said the two chiefs and their men were well armed and used brute force against the Zeliangrongs.
So, some villages in order to avoid ugly consequences, remained silent or extended some nominal help to them during Kuki Rebellion (1917-19). It was a fleeting practise and not regular. It was not subservience or vassalship, said ZB-M.
The ZB-M also alleged that historically, the so called Kuki Rebellion was a State sponsored conflict, for the Kukis used the 600 muzzle-loading guns against the Nagas. Those guns were issued by Churachand Maharaj.
Practically it was not rebellion, because instead of fighting against the established authority directly, they turned the guns against the Nagas of Manipur.
It is, therefore, inappropriate to call it rebellion nor was war of independence. Practically, it was mere inter-tribal feud, the ZB-M further stated.
“Another claim of the KNO and the question of Kuki Achouba and Kuki Ahongba, it is a well known fact that the term Kuki is of recent appearance/origin. How could it appear in 33 AD ? The two names are fictitious by any account. Moreover, anything appears in Pooyas is not historical and scientific. KNO’s assertion is not historical. In this regard, the Meiteis should take up the issue. For it is something to do with coronation of Pakhangba”.
“Is Chothe Thangvai Pakhangba a historical man?,” the ZB-M questioned.
“As to frequent reference of the Joupi incident by various Kuki organisations, which we have put into oblivion for being Christians, we are constrained to cite historical antecedents.
“Joupi village was infamous not only in recent time but it was so in the past too. It was at that very village Tintong and Khotinthang and their men celebrated their victory by bringing hundreds of heads of Zeliangrong men and women. They decorated their celebration by threading the heads together and placed them around their celebration ground. They also made a minor boy (12 and half years ) stand in their midst and alternately fired by his shoulder. He stood terrified each time by the firing. He was finally eleminated. So, Joupi incident holds true of the saying, ‘History revisits or repeats itself.’ If the Kukis continue Black Day we will also observe the like of Kuki Rebellion atrocities,” the ZB-M asserted.
“Besides, time and again, various Kuki organisations always come out with this one sided propaganda of killing 900 Kukis during the Kuki-Naga ethnic clash in the 1990s. How about those triple 900 Nagas killed during the Kuki Rebellion of 1917-19 in the present four districts of the Nagas in Manipur by the so called Kuki freedom fighters. And if the Kukis want justice from the Court or GOI for the so called crimes (or killing of 900 Kukis) by the Nagas, we also demand similar justice for Kuki atrocities committed against the Nagas by massacring more than 3000 Nagas during their rebellion of 1917-19 and the ethnic clash of 1990s,” the ZB-M also stated. In this regard, the Zeliangrong Baudi, Manipur urged all Kuki organisations particularly the KNO to release their statements based on historical and factual accounts and not to repeat any statements which are unbecoming of responsible organisation.
The ZB-M also alleged that historically, the so called Kuki Rebellion was a State sponsored conflict, for the Kukis used the 600 muzzle-loading guns against the Nagas. Those guns were issued by Churachand Maharaj.
Practically it was not rebellion, because instead of fighting against the established authority directly, they turned the guns against the Nagas of Manipur.
It is, therefore, inappropriate to call it rebellion nor was war of independence. Practically, it was mere inter-tribal feud, the ZB-M further stated.
“Another claim of the KNO and the question of Kuki Achouba and Kuki Ahongba, it is a well known fact that the term Kuki is of recent appearance/origin. How could it appear in 33 AD ? The two names are fictitious by any account. Moreover, anything appears in Pooyas is not historical and scientific. KNO’s assertion is not historical. In this regard, the Meiteis should take up the issue. For it is something to do with coronation of Pakhangba”.
“Is Chothe Thangvai Pakhangba a historical man?,” the ZB-M questioned.
“As to frequent reference of the Joupi incident by various Kuki organisations, which we have put into oblivion for being Christians, we are constrained to cite historical antecedents.
“Joupi village was infamous not only in recent time but it was so in the past too. It was at that very village Tintong and Khotinthang and their men celebrated their victory by bringing hundreds of heads of Zeliangrong men and women. They decorated their celebration by threading the heads together and placed them around their celebration ground. They also made a minor boy (12 and half years ) stand in their midst and alternately fired by his shoulder. He stood terrified each time by the firing. He was finally eleminated. So, Joupi incident holds true of the saying, ‘History revisits or repeats itself.’ If the Kukis continue Black Day we will also observe the like of Kuki Rebellion atrocities,” the ZB-M asserted.
“Besides, time and again, various Kuki organisations always come out with this one sided propaganda of killing 900 Kukis during the Kuki-Naga ethnic clash in the 1990s. How about those triple 900 Nagas killed during the Kuki Rebellion of 1917-19 in the present four districts of the Nagas in Manipur by the so called Kuki freedom fighters. And if the Kukis want justice from the Court or GOI for the so called crimes (or killing of 900 Kukis) by the Nagas, we also demand similar justice for Kuki atrocities committed against the Nagas by massacring more than 3000 Nagas during their rebellion of 1917-19 and the ethnic clash of 1990s,” the ZB-M also stated. In this regard, the Zeliangrong Baudi, Manipur urged all Kuki organisations particularly the KNO to release their statements based on historical and factual accounts and not to repeat any statements which are unbecoming of responsible organisation.
Another Lie
Another interesting lie. . Speak till you ran out of lie My Slaves!! you See no matter how much lie you bring up but at the end Truth Shall conquer All!! Lmfao ZB
Pistolson
Well said Zeliangrong Baudi. Kuki can just come up with any map covering all the places of Naga inhabited area but they'll never ever got it. How can a mouse(kuki) will stand in front of elephant(nagas)....????
@another Lie
@another lie! What do you know? Do you even know what you speaking about LMFAO? Check your english construction as well. Thank you.
Benjamin Pou
The Kuki refugees will continue to claimed. They know only how to grasp other land and nothing else. This Kukis who are the descendant and migrants from Israel should go back to Israel as some of their clans have already left for good. The Kukis are nomad and like the gypsy who migrate from one place to another another till recently before they have just come to Sadarji (Sadar hills) and some parts of Manipur. It is a great shame that they are claiming other community land who have just arrived in Manipur like the illegal immigrants of Bangladesh in Assam. Shame on Cookies. They have become like the cookies to the people of Manipur. The best for the Kukis will be going back to Burma jungle or Israel and live with their brothers and sisters.
john serto
ha4 a very very poor joke from zeliangrongs. What about the inter-village head huntings and celebrations by Nagas killing one another? lol. WHen do u think the term Naga came? perhaps older than abraham na? Nagas thought they can rule over the Kukis, but are mistaken. Today the Kukis are no longer in the 1990s situation. If you want war, we are equally equip now to handle these kacha nagas!!
aries
who r kacha nagas?
CHINGMI @ john serto
John ur name is a BIBLE name but ur mind is as dirty as satan, shame to b call john. On the other hand u shud know that 99% of all Cookies UGs arm were deposit at their desinated Camp & Army locked & the key is with Army, all that arms will never ever get back to Cookies UGs again. So to fight to Nagas U Cookies will bear a huge burden in order to buy arms & in the mean time without fighting to Nagas u'll die of stavation. So stop greaming of fighting to Nagas the Great.. Respect to NAGAS.
Troy
Very well said ZB. Must appreciate for speaking the truth. The so called Kuki rebellion was indeed a state sponsored terrorism against the Nagas!
pankj
till 1985 dimapur was under assam territory see now kacha nagas r land grabber "hunger for land" they r troble maker NSCN(IM) chinese DOGS. betrayal of real/indigenous naga NSCN(K)
dear PISTOLSON
pistolson u r absolutely right NAGA is elephant living only in jungle which called nanga in hindi
mcsonchand
During 1917 -19, kuki chief Tintong and Khotinthang insert pointed cane in the breast of naga girls and pull them up to their camp .Wah Wah Wonderful freedom fighter against british.
Be the Red
Well said ! Kuki kuki kuki what to do with this people? i apeal to Government to deport this people to their re respective homeland Myanmar. go away kuki why are you always disturbing people?. why are you always grabbing others land? why are lying? why are you making false story? you useless moron. chooochooo go go no 1 lyks u. go bck illegal migrants n yah dont forget to take your bangladeshi brotheR
Appreciation to ZB-M
Well said and nicely written @Zeliangrong Baudi. I hope this shot some of our Kukis friends. Well, this is the truth. These nomad who once called themselves "the lost tribe of Israel" don't have any right to called their own, instead they are a refugee. Any claim made by the Kukis is purely of their own inventions and demonical. I want Ibobi to drive these people out of our land via ILP :P
Kacha nagas
Its true .kacha naga r slave of kuki its fact
Top
This is what Prof Gangumei kabui states, in His Book, History of Manipur page 24, 'Some kuki tribes migrated to Manipur Hills in the pre-historic times along with or after the Meitei advent into the Manipur valley'.
Juli
Common, stupid hill peoples Nagas n Kukis, stop figting and ugly arguments, Satans of the Manipur Hills. Hopeless Christians, follow your Jesus or agree to be a terrorist community in the world.
Thalhun
FUNNY STORY "Tintong and Khotinthang and their men celebrated their victory by bringing hundreds of heads of Zeliangrong men and women" never impost your culture to other
Peacemaker
Nagaland for Naga People. We, our naga people shouldn't give shelter to any Manipuri Katcha-Naga to the land of Christ, Nagaland. If any Manipuri Fake Naga want to live in Nagaland, they should give TAX first and stay there under a Nagaland Permit. They should not enter without Nagaland staying permit. After naga solution we will start to consider about Manipur FAke Naga. Manipuri Kuki, katch Naga are all Gypsy, & FAKE tribes and come from Myanmar. It's better for both tribes to return their birthplace, Homeland Burma before fighting each other in Manipur/Nagaland.
land owner
We Nagas are not like you kukis who talk,shout, and scream when ever they feel like doing it...that Egooo... Just shut your mouth ASAP other wise,another round of music will follw soon before you complete your f..k sentence where ever you are... I warn you from today.....you 'll have to leave from your home again.No one like Kuki tribe! look at Mizo,Zomi and other tribe they are far better in every field now. You better wake up from today and try to educate your children put them in good school but please dont teach your children the wrong way that you have done in the past.Kukis you only think for yourself.. Last but not the least KUKI stand for SELFISH.
Vox Populi
@ aries those ppl who r not a part of nagaland but still claims themselves as nagas and still living under someone else control are KACHA NAGAS like those staying at ukhrul. and 1 thing u sud know that they speak different language unlike those in NAGALAND....... " KWAK NA WAHONG MATU THETLAGA WAHONG OIGADABA NATTE" let them shout til they die......
rhine
The Rationale behind Separate Statehood A country can keep creating more states for better administrative purposes. The Indian States after Independence in 1947 keep increasing. It is within Indian Constitutional Provision. The administrative system in Manipur is poor because of lack of good transport system and communication system. It is right that the Kukis demand for their own state. It is also right that the Nagas demand for a separate state. The administrative system in the valley is poor but in comparison to the hills, it is much better. Likewise other tribes can also ask. This is likely in near future. The Kukis are not demanding separate state from Nagas. There is no point in attacking Nagas. The problem is the Kukis are scattered in small villages. How the Kuki village settlement begun? This is different issue. What matter here is, the Kukis should be given separate statehood. When they are given separate statehood, their land holding is very small. The state’s territory will be running like a sinew (human nervous system) in human body. It will be cutting all across. The multiplication of Kuki villages is strategic. They cut Naga Occupied territories. They settled near national and state highways. A time may come when Kukis will envelop the whole Naga villages. It was and it will be. They come in friendly terms to Naga Chiefs for a portion of land. They settle, increase and multiply and invade more territory for cultivation. This is historical and it is in process When a Kuki man has dispute with the existing king, he leaves the village and settles in another village. If he has money, he buys a small portion of land. He starts a new village and he reigns as the king. This is how a new Kuki village mushroom. This is a fact. The Kuki brethren cannot deny. To cite an example: Keipham village, Nazareth village in Sugnu. The land originally belong to Unapat (Anal village). The Kukis have their permanent territory boarding Myanmar. No Naga Settlement has such beginning. This does not mean that the Kukis settled in Naga occupied area when the Nagas sold it off to Kuki chiefs. Kukis should therefore draw their proposed state boundary within those parameters without making undue claim by political means (non-political). Wrong presentization of history is erroneous. The Nagas cannot claim back the given territory for Kukis as theirs. What is given is given. There cannot be a state (in case of Manipur) created for a single tribe. When a separate state is given to Nagas, it will comprise of various Naga tribes. If so should the Kukis be excluded from the boundary? KNO should re-define their proposed state. Instead of demanding from Central government the Kukis demand from the Nagas. This is not political. The Kukis were flushed out from Ukhrul district (except Litan). They can be flushed out from other districts. This is what Nagas feel. If Nagas do it the Nagas will be wronged. The Meiteis will rejoice. The government of Manipur is not in position to oppose the Nagas and their movement. The government will rejoice. Many more Kukis and Nagas will die. The Kukis will continue to press for justice. Life will go on. My appeal therefore, is that the Nagas and Kukis should look towards the Central government of India for solution and not towards each other. The Kukis and Nagas accept fraternally the boundary that will be drawn. Again this is for administrative purpose. The Nagas should not think that this is Naga country’s boundary. Rhine Dilbung
Examiner
@another Lie, You are using poor English and trying to correct the other commenters' English? Shame on You, first correct yourself. Kukis are the real slave of Nagas and Meiteis. Kukis are nomad and like the gypsy who migrated from Burma side to settle in India. Not only Manipur state name spoiling by your immoral women and girls but as a whole of the North East India with their improper dressing. Kukis women and girls do not wear brazers instead wear stretchable top, they do not even wear panty, only pheinek, short skirt or pants unzip their bottom. Their motto, "Man of all the world who want lust Kukis women welcoming you. If you can't come to my home send me my airfare, train fare or bus, taxi fare, I'll be reaching to you on time. Use my body in such a way U wanna". Dreadful community 'Kuki"
Bann sing
true 100%! Nagas were the first hill settlers but not within manipurs teritory.
lionking
Dear Naga Bro & Sist. It is a known fact that Naga nationalism started prior to India's Independence.Since naga nationalism is based on propaganda and falsehood, it has come down to AA from soverienty. But like it or not, the fact is Kukis fought the mighty British for thee long years protecting their land. Taking advantage of the situation, the tankhul and Kabui took the side of the british to defeat Kukis. Many kuki villages were burnt down during the war. As for Anal, they are Kukis and their clan name like mates, mangvungs, sumpi, lunkhel etc is proof of it.
jodonan Jr
ZB n ZYF your story lack evidence and proof. its too much to distort history. I am ashame of your plot to win the paper war. you are contradictory to your statement and your history. you cannot hide how much you may use your mask. Once again don make mistake under the influence of nscn im. they are lier and their policy will bring nothing good and it will not last too. later you will see tribe base clash among manipur nagas this will be the out come of tangkhul policies. i warn you again again...
lamkang tahchapa
why many a time naga orgs. mention the word refugee or nomad to the kukis many times. at the same time why they said they dre from burma. I think by using all this filthy words without any evidence and lack of historical proof point doubting character at yourselves . many a time you said this it also directly hit the people of chandel especially the anal lamkang moyon monsang chothe and tarao because we are migrated from burma side with the new kukis. we share much historically and culturally. It is true the remark of gangumei kabui "culturally kukis politically nagas" to the chandel nagas. becareful naga CSOs not to do anything that hurt the feeling of chandel people by indirectly or directly.
Nagalim frontier
Peacemaker be clear with your name, you sound like trouble maker and not peacemaker coz our brothers in tamenglong, ukrul chandel senapati with us will kick your ass if you ever call them other name for your words is to devide us .remember we the nagas are not fool like you. There is no kacha nagas in nagas. So watch what you speak.
@pankj
Stay out of trouble,
Aso
Dear kuki bro go home instead of wasting time here for your mommas are ready your CHAKKEMBOM WITH RATS. Do not forget you do not belong here. Our Zeliangrongs bro and we wants peace so do not start over.
Amoza
We have been hearing so many trouble from kuki, may be we should act, so that they will understand and go back to BUrma or stay under manipuris or nagas.
Avagato
Long live ZB. For revealing the truth, we have the common history,
Ibobi
Anal, Lamkang, Moyon, Monsang, Chothe, Tarao, Maring etc. are all Naga. No one should change their mind and thought. So without their knowledge no any responsible gentleman should ever call them 'Kookie'.
Simbu Changlit
rhine u rhyme with me man!!
@kuki
haha... stupid n negligible comment to all kuki... my grandpa told me kuki are fond of yam (Colocasia), since wen they began to eat rice????? can any kuki bro or sis tel me? ur positive answer is highly appreciated...
Adummei
Zeliangrong Ringtelou
naga cool
may the joy n peace of christmas be with you all to my christian bros n sis of manipur.
convix
naga vs kuki?how long you think you will live?ieverybody had enough killing blockade bandhs etc.now you want to fight again,as long as you try you will alwz find a respectable reason to fight.the whole world wil be yours yet you wont find satisfaction.remember in the end all you will need is 3x7ft wooden box.wen you face your creator are you goin to say Lord i kill the nagas/kukis for your glory?jus try to live a happy life without creating a problem for your neighbours.the title of clan not goin to bring you anything but hatred.this the reason Gandhiji refused to bea christian,christians are more likely to destroy the world n especially manipur.
khulmi
@ibobi nakali man u know (L) mono monsang i don think so cos u bark like baby. for your information he was secy. general of Kuki national assembly in 50s. later rishang keising the rejected son of of Chassad chief lure them along with other tribe leaders into kacha naga fold wit the helps of suisa n muiva armies to expand territory. distort history n using any means to win will lead no where... just wait your time to come...
achupa
I read so many books on history of naga for truth i wud lk to comment dat wat ZB n oders manipur nagas talk r lack authenticty. don mk fool around u.. lets not assume pple r so illiterate.records n books r there to verify. som time i thk u sud learn to be honest wit urself. u r only a nuisance to nagas of nagaland. frankly v don wan to accomodate u here. learn to respect others n pple wil respect..
Minlal
What a baseless article... The last paragraph itself is contradictory (self-refutation). In fact the article itself is full of bias and logical incoherence. If the author would have been well versed with historical data he may not commit such blunder fallacious statement. The reports about 1917-19, the miscarriage of Nagas by the Kukis is nothing but an attempt to defame the integrity of Kukis, why? coz in the first place you have mentioned 900 people and finally maximized the numbers into 3000 (inconsistent statement). It seems you are simply caricaturing historical events in such away that it may touch the psyche of young nagas. But the truth is Nagas are the victim of propping British government in onslaught Kuki territory. It were never the intensity of Kukis to seized Nagas, as Kacha Nagas did with defenseless Kukis farmers in the name of ethnic cleansing IN 1990 without precaution. Yes, perhaps you may successfully manipulate some credulous people with this tiny witty article, which I will love to called the outcome of an arrogance concept by doing away the truth of historical events. I am only responding injustice statement made in article... IN FACT As, per my personal world view is concern, it is a high time that tribal of NE should work together for better future... If we love living in past we will never experience healthy future.... forget the past live in present and move forwards together....
